Ridgeway Civil War Research Center, A virtual examination of artifacts of the American Civil War
	Civil War Weapons, all pre 1898
	by Harry Ridgeway

Federal sword and knife, fakes, fantasies, and reproductions, all are junk of no value.All of the items on this page are pictures that I made from pieces brought to me for analysis or evaluation, or pictures submitted by others. There are simply too many goofy swords out there to attempt to catalog all of the possible fakes, and I have no interest in trying to do so, this is simply a small sample and the perverbial tip of the iceberg. . Research Center: Weapon8800-Sword-Federal-Fakes-Fantasy-Reproduction . Details click: http://relicman.com/weapons/Weapon8800-Sword-Federal-Fakes-Fantasy-Reproduction.html

W1461 ### Federal sword and knife, fakes, fantasies, and reproductions, all are junk of no value.All of the items on this page are pictures that I made from pieces brought to me for analysis or evaluation, or pictures submitted by others. There are simply too many goofy swords out there to attempt to catalog all of the possible fakes, and I have no interest in trying to do so, this is simply a small sample and the perverbial tip of the iceberg. . W1461...Ames officer sword,...Fake, fantasy or reproduction....AUCTION IS FOR A VERY NICE GENUINE CIVIL WAR PERIOD US AMES OFFICERS SWORD. COMPLETE W/ ORIGINAL SCABBARD. SCABBARD HAS BOTH RINGS STILL AND IS IN GOOD SHAPE W/ A NICE PATINA. SWORD ITSELF IS IN NICE SHAPE W/ A DARK PATINA ON THE BLADE, BLADE IS MARKED AMES ON THE BLADE. BLADE IS A LITTLE LOOSE FROM THE HANDLE, BUT OTHERWISE IN NICE SHAPE. PLEASE EMAIL WITHANY AND ALL QUESTIONS, US HSIPPING WILL BE $25.00, ALL SALES ARE FINAL, SO ASK ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE BIDDING Source: ebay auction by vintage_comics_and_collectibles, 7/24/06, GENUINE CIVIL WAR PERIOD US AMES OFFICERS SWORD Item number: 250009376150 Editor note: This seller sells on ebay auction under Private Auction.Nice general officer sword by Ames!!!!!!!! Research Center: Weapon8800-Sword-Federal-Fakes-Fantasy-Reproduction . Junky fake not listed or valued, but photographed.

W1465 ### Federal sword and knife, fakes, fantasies, and reproductions, all are junk of no value.All of the items on this page are pictures that I made from pieces brought to me for analysis or evaluation, or pictures submitted by others. There are simply too many goofy swords out there to attempt to catalog all of the possible fakes, and I have no interest in trying to do so, this is simply a small sample and the perverbial tip of the iceberg. . W1465...Millard officer sword, ...Fake, fantasy or reproduction....Source: Pictures of this sword were submitted to me for evaluation. The owner said that he found this in a shop in Colorado. I also asked John Thillman to look at this and he gave the following comment:If you go to page 365 of my book and read the Caution paragraph this is one of the hilts that I discuss. It is newly cast and to me is obvious because of the lack of fine finishing on the knuckle bow as it enters the pommel. Also the tang shows evidence of being newly done where it comes through the pommel cap. Blade is real but too bad about screwing up a nice M1860 cav saber with a scarce maker. Keep your distance from this piece of c%&*. John Editor note: I informed the buyer that although the blade could be authentic, it is highly doubtful that much of the rest of it is. Research Center: Weapon8800-Sword-Federal-Fakes-Fantasy-Reproduction . Junky fake not listed or valued, but photographed.

W1466 ### Federal sword and knife, fakes, fantasies, and reproductions, all are junk of no value.All of the items on this page are pictures that I made from pieces brought to me for analysis or evaluation, or pictures submitted by others. There are simply too many goofy swords out there to attempt to catalog all of the possible fakes, and I have no interest in trying to do so, this is simply a small sample and the perverbial tip of the iceberg. . W1466...(F1406)...Identified sword, sword may be real but 1880's or later....Fake, fantasy or reproduction.... Research Center: Weapon8800-Sword-Federal-Fakes-Fantasy-Reproduction . Junky fake not listed or valued, but photographed.

W1467 ### Federal sword and knife, fakes, fantasies, and reproductions, all are junk of no value.All of the items on this page are pictures that I made from pieces brought to me for analysis or evaluation, or pictures submitted by others. There are simply too many goofy swords out there to attempt to catalog all of the possible fakes, and I have no interest in trying to do so, this is simply a small sample and the perverbial tip of the iceberg. . W1467...General Stoneman engraved sword., ...Fake, fantasy or reproduction....Civil War Sword Saber 38 Engraved Gen. George Stoneman Item condition: Used Time left: 4d 21h (Feb 27, 201112:23:55 PST) Bid history: 0 bids[Refresh bidhistory] Starting bid: US $1,599.00 Your max bid: US $ Place bidPlace bid (Enter US $1,599.00 or more) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- or -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Price: US $3,499.00 Buy It NowBuy It NowBuy It Now Add to Watch listStart of panelAdd to Watch listAdd to Gift IdeasAdd to ResearchAdd to Wish ListSign in for more listsEnd of panel Shipping: $24.90 Standard Shipping See more services See shipping discounts | See all shipping details Delivery: Estimated between Wed. Mar. 2 and Tue. Mar. 8 Returns: No Returns Accepted Learn moreabout eBay Buyer Protection - opens in a new window or tab Seller info Member id taylora1985 ( Feedback Score Of 50) 100% Positive feedback Save this seller See other items from this seller Other item info Item number: 200578786488 Item location: Plainview, TX, United States Ships to: N. and S. America, Europe, Asia, Australia Payments: PayPal See payment details Print this item - opens in a new window or tab|Report item Description Shipping and payments Share: this item Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing.Last updated on 07:36:16 PM PST, Feb 21, 2011 View all revisions Item specifics Condition: Used: An item that has been used previously. See the sellerعظŸُŸs listing for full details and description of any imperfections. See all condition definitions- opens in a new window or tab... Read moreabout the condition I purchased this sword recently from the Crain Estate Auction in the small town of Canyon, TX. Mr. Crain was a large and reputable Civil War collector and this sword is testament to that fact. The sword is engraved Gen. George Stoneman on the cross guard. The engraving appears to be authentic, not recent, not faked. I've researched photos of the General and have had a hard time finding a good one that clearly shows this sword, but here is a wikipedia link to a photo that shows Grip of the sword if you are able to zoom in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GeneralStoneman%26Staff.jpg General Stoneman was a Union Cavalry General and served under Gen's McClellan and Hooker. In 1882, he was elected the fifth governor of California. If you would like to see any additional close-up photos, please feel free to email me and I will send them to you. There are no passed down letters, etc. that verify if this is truly Gen. Stoneman's sword but everything indicates that it is. The photos I've found show Stoneman with this exact style of sword, the collector was highly regarded and had a number of other authentic original items in his collection (including the only traveling dentist chair of Doc Holliday which sold for a ghastly amount, a .38 revolver which belonged to Annie Oakley, and other one of a kind items). Please feel free to ask questions. ***There are a significant number of people watching this item, so I thought it would be useful to provide some further details about the sword itself: - The sword is just shy of 42 long - The Blade length, 5/16 thick at it's thickest point - There is no movement between Grip and the blade, it is very solid - Grip appears to be made of some type of thin leather or twill materials and is wrapped with a thin twisted wire, Grip is in very nice shape - Unfortunately, I don't have a scale at my house, but the sword is very weighty. Several pounds. Feel free to ask questions. Thanks. John Thillman wrote: From: John Thillmann [mailto:jhtcav@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 4:23 PMTo: cwclist@cwcollect.comSubject: Re: General Stoneman Sword Well how intriguing would it be to find an authentic Stoneman carried saber! Unfortunately for us this is not the time. I have seen this presentation engraving style before on swords from collections dating from the late 1950's and early 1960's and I don't like it at all. Remember this is when the country was ramping up for the Civil War Centennial--it was a really big deal among the collecting fraternity back then. Everyone was trying to out-do everyone else with cool stuff, and a lot of questionable things for important officers came were discovered as real that with today's knowledge we can say were faked. I evaluated for authenticity a small collection of sabers that were offered to a historical association that were purported to belong to an officer with an inscription and a date when based on our current knowledge we know that that sword maker and sword type was not made and in business at the time of the inscription. As to the saber, the guard is a Horstman product that is generally found on their shorter bladed Cav. Officer examples (used by mounted officers of all branches of the Army that also needed to be on foot much of the time hence the shorter blade) and the blades are always marked with the Horstmann name on one side with the Horstmann blade supplier Gebruder Weyersburg (Kings Head mark) on the other side. Grips are found both with sharkskin and leather, the pommels are generally seen with an exaggerated trumpet style of brim. For an example of this type of saber guard look at pages 219 (overall) and 220 (guard) of Civil War Cavalry and Artillery Sabers. Take a close look at the guard face on the Ebay page and you will notice a foliate on the guard face. This is a Horstmann trademark and shown on page 220 of my book. Only Horstmann is known to have cast such a guard. The pommel doesn't have the exaggerated trumpet style of brim and Grip is leather on the 1860 pattern--while the Horstmann style is different as can be seen on page 220. Note also the tang that from a poor photo seems to have a very large peen--definitely a questionable issue and generally makes one wonder. The blade is a Walscheid product and this maker can be found on page 460 of my book with a similar blade etching style. To be fail Horstmann could have used a Walscheid product. Without a close personal evaluation I'm not willing to say that it is a put together sword with a fantasy inscription both done maybe 45 to 50 years ago but it can't be ruled out either. John T. Research Center: Weapon8800-Sword-Federal-Fakes-Fantasy-Reproduction . Junky fake not listed or valued, but photographed.

W1468 ### Federal sword and knife, fakes, fantasies, and reproductions, all are junk of no value.All of the items on this page are pictures that I made from pieces brought to me for analysis or evaluation, or pictures submitted by others. There are simply too many goofy swords out there to attempt to catalog all of the possible fakes, and I have no interest in trying to do so, this is simply a small sample and the perverbial tip of the iceberg. . W1468...Tiffany sword...Fake, fantasy or reproduction.... Research Center: Weapon8800-Sword-Federal-Fakes-Fantasy-Reproduction . Junky fake not listed or valued, but photographed.

This is the "Ridgeway Civil War Research Center", a research tool for educational purposes only, and is provided at no cost to the reader. Some of the relics listed are retained in the author's collection, most reside in other collections and are not owned by the author. None of the items listed in this section are for sale, please refer to relicman.com sales listings for items offered for sale. This is a work in progress, I list items as I get to them, there are many patterns that are not listed yet, this list will be regularly updated as I get pictures and descriptions for more items. I will also correct mistakes, so if you see any please tell me. All items listed are believed to be authentic to the Civil War or as otherwise described. Any excavated relics have been recovered from private property with owners permission.This information is available for research purposes, pictures may be used by permission only.

All weapons listed on this webpage are strictly manufactured before 1898, and are considered unsafe for actual use. These are antique collectible weapons of the Civil War (most are pre 1865, unless I state otherwise) and actual firing of these weapons is not recommended for any purpose whatsoever! Because these are all "pre 1898" weapons, no licenses are required for ownership, but common sense and good judgment should be applied.

Most information on this page is from:
Flayderman's Guide to Antique American Firearms......
John Thillman series, "Civil War Cavalry & Artillery Sabers...", or "Civil War Army Swords....".

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