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Plate1479-Federal-Sword-617-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION Federal Sword Waist plate, FAKE, FANTASY, or REPRODUCTION ODonnell illustration 617 or 618 Research Center: Plate1479-Federal-Sword-617-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Details click: http://relicman.com/plates/Plate1479-Federal-Sword-617-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION.html |
P3343 ### P3343 ### (F1343) ### Federal Sword plate Plate P3343 ### (F1343) ### Federal Sword plate Plate F1343 Federal Sword plate Plate 618)Plate measures 49.6mm to 49.9mm (44.0 inside) X 81.3mmPlate is cast, wreath is integral The owner of this buckle died, the estate executor submitted this for evaluation. It was a small collection, most of the expensive buckles were fakes, most of the cheap ones (US buckles and breast plates) were real. I am certain this collector thought they were all real. Unfortunately he has taken information as to the sourcing to his grave. Not sure who aged this plate but the file marks on the back were apparently intended to remove the marks in Hanover Brass casting. See Photo ESBP19 for an example from the foundry before this alteration. I am a critic of GW, but it does appear that the alternation on this plate was likely done after it left Hanover Brass Foundry.Gary Williams explanation, (civilwarfakes.com Photo # ESBP19) Plate 617 (solid Brass) 1851 Eagle Officers Sword Belt Plate 50 x 83mm always 1 to 2mm's smaller than original. Cast solid brass from original to use as a master pattern. Correct style wreath tips above the wings. GW stamped into the back. Original had the applied nickle silver wreath.Editor note, Minor point, this is labeled as plate 617, but that is an entirely different design. This appears to actually be plate 618 but with an integral wreath, and matches item F1343 above which was faked. Items F1219 and F1070 are the same plate but with the wreath cut and applied. By making this copy of a plate with the original wreath, the wreath design is correct but integral cast when it should otherwise be applied. Research Center: Plate1479-Federal-Sword-617-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P3343 F1343 Not owned picture only |
P0971 ### P0971 Eagle sword waist plate, US Regulation 1851, nondug Contractor: Unknown, solid cast with wreath integrally cast. File marks on the back were soldiers effort to change the tongue slightly to fit his personal needs, see O'Donnell Plate 620 for another example of this. Ref: O'Donnell & Campbell plate 619 $275.00 Research Center: Plate1479-Federal-Sword-617-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . |
P2209 ### P2209 ### P2209.Fed Sword Plate Kudela Fed sword plate pictures provided. Research Center: Plate1479-Federal-Sword-617-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Kudela |
P2267 ### P2267 P2267.Fed sword plate Phyllis Morefield P2267 P2267.Fed sword plate Phyllis Morefield Research Center: Plate1479-Federal-Sword-617-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Morefield Phyllis |
P2776 ### Hanover Brass repro: Federal sword plate. This is an example of Hanover Brass commercial grade reproduction, the plate has been produced in quantity, sold to the living history market, and is generally readily available. The product has also been used as feedstock for fakes, with chemical aging and other alterations. Gary Williams has provided the following pictures and explanation: Photo # ESBP13 Plate 618 1851 Eagle Officers Sword Belt Plate 51 x 84mm Narrow hook cast with plate. GW stamped under hook. This is a very close copy but you can tell my reproduction by the wreath tips above the eagle wings. They do not reproduce these tips and my tips are different from the original tips. I cut the tips from a wreath and they look the same top and bottom. You need to study this tip because it is a sure sign if original or reproduction. Research Center: Plate1479-Federal-Sword-617-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Photo # ESBP13 civilwarfakes com |
P2778 ### Hanover Brass repro: Federal sword plate. This is an example of Hanover Brass commercial grade reproduction, the plate has been produced in quantity, sold to the living history market, and is generally readily available. The product has also been used as feedstock for fakes, with chemical aging and other alterations. Gary Williams has provided the following pictures and explanation: Photo # ESBP15 Plate 617 1861 Eagle Officers Sword Belt Plate 51 x 85mm. GW stamped under the hook. Applied nickle silver wreath, nickle wreath tips above the wings. The wreath is different than the original wreath. Reproduction hook is soldered on and not brazed as the original. You can see a silver solder line at the base of the hook.The original hook is brazed but looks cast to the buckle.. Research Center: Plate1479-Federal-Sword-617-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Photo # ESBP15 civilwarfakes com |
P2782 ### Hanover Brass repro: Federal sword plate. This is an example of Hanover Brass commercial grade reproduction, the plate has been produced in quantity, sold to the living history market, and is generally readily available. The product has also been used as feedstock for fakes, with chemical aging and other alterations. Gary Williams has provided the following pictures and explanation: Photo # ESBP19 Plate 617 (solid Brass) 1851 Eagle Officers Sword Belt Plate 50 x 83mm always 1 to 2mm's smaller than original. Cast solid brass from original to use as a master pattern. Correct style wreath tips above the wings. GW stamped into the back. Original had the applied nickle silver wreath. Research Center: Plate1479-Federal-Sword-617-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Photo # ESBP19 civilwarfakes com |
P2937 ### Sword plates, Hanover Brass production Gary Williams explanation of his production, information is from civilwarfakes.com: Sword plate silver wreath Hanover P2937 ### Sword plate silver wreath Hanover Research Center: Plate1479-Federal-Sword-617-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Hanover Brass |
P3070 ### P3070 (F1070) Officers Sword Belt, manufactured by Hanover Brass P3070 (F1070) Officers Sword Belt, manufactured by Hanover Brass F1070 Officers Sword Belt, manufactured by Hanover BrassThis 1851 eagle buckle was cast from an original from his collection by Gary Williams, Hanover Brass. This is as close to the original as you will get. It is marked with GW. A beautiful belt plate to wear or display. Solid yellow brass with applied nickle silver wreath. If you want a belt buckle that looks like the real thing, this is it. This Eagle buckle is marked and sold as a reproduction even though it definitely looks original. BEAUTIFUL Work of Art. original measurment 51 x 87mm. my reproduction is 2mm smaller.Source: ebay auction by jaglady00 3/12/06 1851 Civil War Eagle Officers Sword Belt Buckle Plate Applied 3-Piece Nickel Silver Wreath Item number: 6611625538Editor note: jaglady00 is Hanover Brass, items sold as reproductions. Research Center: Plate1479-Federal-Sword-617-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P3070 F1070 Not owned picture only |
P3219 ### P3219 ### (F1219) ### Officers Sword Belt, manufactured by Hanover Brass P3219 ### (F1219) ### Officers Sword Belt, manufactured by Hanover Brass F1219 Officers Sword Belt, manufactured by Hanover BrassPlate measures 49.8mm to 50.3mm (not square) X 82.6mmPlate was submitted by Gary Williams, Hanover Brass with the following comment:Some were made with a very poor grade of silver wreath that usually did not last. Dug examples wreath is gone. A few were made with stamped nickel silver and they usually last and are seen on most of these buckles. Cut line applies to this buckle also. The main thing to look for is the wreath tip above the wings. These tips are not reproduced and can be used as a reference. Look at the original, then my buckle, also the hook is different. Very close and needs a lot of study.Editor note: Hanover Brass does not cast the wreaths, they use a stock wreath from another supplier and the wreath is one style fits all. So they use a whole wreath below the wing, and cut the tips off another and apply above the wing. The original employed a custom wreath different from this, the wreath was actually cut below the wing and will show a straight edge, as noted in the book, but which is different from this wreath. The buckle also is slightly smaller than the original. The wreath is not going to be present on most dug examples, so you have to go by other clues beyond the wreath to authenticate. A good many dug and authentic examples are showing up with repro wreaths. So you have fakes in which the wreath has been removed, and authentic pieces which have had the wreath added. GW is right, this one is tough to work to say the least. Research Center: Plate1479-Federal-Sword-617-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P3219 F1219 Not owned picture only |
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