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Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-013-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION Confederate, two part plate, FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION Confederate two part plate, CS, style with ball serif, Mullinax illustration 013, pattern manufactured by Hanover Brass. Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-013-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Details click: http://relicman.com/plates/Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-013-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION.html |
P1485 ### This plate was first bought in 2000, sold, bought back, and discovered to be a fake in 2008, and fooled a lot of good collectors along the way. Eventually example of current production was obtained from Hanover Brass, all flaws and size match exactly, so it was recalled and condemned. so yep relicman got stuck with this one! Plate was originally purchased from Cal Packard, Mansfield Ohio, at the Charleston SC show in 2000. The plate was determined to be fake in 2006. Cal does not believe he should accept this plate back, he paid $500 toward the original purchase price of $2,000, I do have a written receipt from him, in his handwriting at the time of the sale. It matches the Hanover Brass example in every detail so I have to eat it so I am left with the loss, not Cal. There are no maker marks on this plate, never were that I can find. Cal says he guarantees the items he sells, I guess that means we are supposed to simply accept his authority, it means he guarantees that it is his opinion that the item is good, but it does not mean he will refund money when his judgment is proven wrong! That seems like a rather hollow guarantee to me. I should note that I have had items returned to me, which I have honored, and I have returned other items to other dealers. Additional note: This plate has been handled, scraped, rubbed, smelled, tasted, hundreds of times. By now there are spots of raw brass passing through, but I can assure you none of this was present in 2000 when I bought this plate. This had a patina to kill for. You cannot authenticate or condemn a plate based on patina alone, you have to use other clues. Apparently this plate was manufactured originally by Hanover Brass. There are no maker or other distinguishing marks on this plate, so was this intended to be a repro as suggested or was this made to be placed into the fakes market from the beginning? Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-013-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P1485 FP1485 P0558 Chain of ownership. P0558 bought from Cal Packard, sold to Sam Padgett, P1026 bought from Sam Padgett sold to Wallace Market, Wallace sold to Terry Hammonds, P1171 bought from Terry Hammonds sold to John Gibson, P1485 bought from John Gibson, discovered to be a fake at that point, Packard paid a partial refund, Ridgeway absorbed the fake which remains in his box of mistakes. |
P0558 ### Chain of ownership. P0558 bought from Cal Packard, sold to Sam Padgett, P1026 bought from Sam Padgett sold to Wallace Market, Wallace sold to Terry Hammonds, P1171 bought from Terry Hammonds sold to John Gibson, P1485 bought from John Gibson, discovered to be a fake at that point, Packard paid a partial refund, Ridgeway absorbed the fake which remains in his box of mistakes. Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-013-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P0558 P1485 P1026 Chain of ownership. P0558 bought from Cal Packard, sold to Sam Padgett, P1026 bought from Sam Padgett sold to Wallace Market, Wallace sold to Terry Hammonds, P1171 bought from Terry Hammonds sold to John Gibson, P1485 bought from John Gibson, discovered to be a fake at that point, Packard paid a partial refund, Ridgeway absorbed the fake which remains in his box of mistakes. |
P1026 ### Chain of ownership. P0558 bought from Cal Packard, sold to Sam Padgett, P1026 bought from Sam Padgett sold to Wallace Market, Wallace sold to Terry Hammonds, P1171 bought from Terry Hammonds sold to John Gibson, P1485 bought from John Gibson, discovered to be a fake at that point, Packard paid a partial refund, Ridgeway absorbed the fake which remains in his box of mistakes. Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-013-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P1026 P1485 P0558 Chain of ownership. P0558 bought from Cal Packard, sold to Sam Padgett, P1026 bought from Sam Padgett sold to Wallace Market, Wallace sold to Terry Hammonds, P1171 bought from Terry Hammonds sold to John Gibson, P1485 bought from John Gibson, discovered to be a fake at that point, Packard paid a partial refund, Ridgeway absorbed the fake which remains in his box of mistakes. |
P1171 ### Chain of ownership. P0558 bought from Cal Packard, sold to Sam Padgett, P1026 bought from Sam Padgett sold to Wallace Market, Wallace sold to Terry Hammonds, P1171 bought from Terry Hammonds sold to John Gibson, P1485 bought from John Gibson, discovered to be a fake at that point, Packard paid a partial refund, Ridgeway absorbed the fake which remains in his box of mistakes. Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-013-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P1171 P1485 P1026 Chain of ownership. P0558 bought from Cal Packard, sold to Sam Padgett, P1026 bought from Sam Padgett sold to Wallace Market, Wallace sold to Terry Hammonds, P1171 bought from Terry Hammonds sold to John Gibson, P1485 bought from John Gibson, discovered to be a fake at that point, Packard paid a partial refund, Ridgeway absorbed the fake which remains in his box of mistakes. |
P2643 ### Hanover Brass repro: CS two part, Balls Serifs. This is an example of Hanover Brass commercial grade reproduction, the plate has been produced in quantity, sold to the living history market, and is generally readily available. The product has also been used as feedstock for fakes, with chemical aging and other alterations. Gary Williams has provided the following pictures and explanation: Photo # CS2P7 Plate 013 (Balls Serifs) or (Culpeper) CS Two Piece Belt Plate. 45 x 83/wreath ht.47. Original dug by Henry Yelinek, Hanover Court House, Va. I have seen these in both yellow and red brass. If you look at the center top of CS there are two dots. This is good to use as a flaw. I have cast many of this plate over the years and all will have the same flaw. GW and catalog no. stamped in the back of the tongue. Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-013-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Photo # CS2P7 civilwarfakes com |
P3188 ### F1188 CS two part buckle ball serifs style manufactured by Hanover BrassTongue keeper 44.9mmWreath keeper 45.6mmWreath height 46.8mmPlate was obtained directly from Hanover Brass with the following comment: Look for flaw in tongue and in the S line. Editor note: Plate was obtained directly from Hanover Brass as a sample of his production. Note that any maker marks on this buckle are weak, apparently so that they can be easily removed or obscured. Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-013-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P3188 F1188 Picture only submitted. |
P3020 ### F1020 Ball Serifs CS 2-Piece Belt Buckle, manufactured by Hanover Brass This reproduction CS Ball Serifs style Two Piece is a MUST for anyone who enjoys civil war belt buckles. It is cast from yellow brass. Associated with the Army of Northern Virginia. Has original look. Source: ebay auction by jaglady00 3/12/06 Ball Serifs CS 2-Piece Belt Buckle Plate Item number: 6611817016 Editor note: jaglady00 is Hanover Brass, items sold as reproductions. Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-013-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P3020 F1020 Picture only submitted. |
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