Ridgeway Civil War Research Center A virtual examination of artifacts of the American Civil War
	Civil War Plates and Buckles
	by Harry Ridgeway

Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-015-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION Confederate, two part plate, FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION Confederate two part plate, CS, Haiman style, Mullinax illustrations 015 to 019. Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-015-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Details click: http://relicman.com/plates/Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-015-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION.html

P0968 ### FP0968 CS two part buckle, Haiman styleTwo part buckle manufactured by Haiman, known for unique style of lettering, pronounced vent and dip in the back of the tongue. Beautiful dug example, both halves dug together. Wonderful example of casting sprue on both pieces, typical of Haiman construction. Recovered: Knoxville, TN Tongue keeper 47.2mmWreath keeper 48.7mmWreath height 49.4mm Editor note: This plate was sold by me in 2003 and recalled in 2007. It was recalled because of the similarity to the Hanover Brass buckle above. I originally bought the buckle from a reputable dealer who says he bought it from a reputable collector in eastern Tennessee. That collection did not include other fakes and the collector claimed at the time that he dug the piece. Since then he has died, and is therefore proving difficult to interview.This buckle was sold by me in 2003, I had every reason to believe it was good, it eventually landed in the hands of a Tennessee dealer and along the way picked up a Mullinax letter certifying its authenticity. I had also asked second opinions from several collectors when I bought it, all were positive. I recalled the buckle, (paid the people I sold this to) and the dealer who supplied me paid me, so everybody except the maker has been honorable. Who made this buckle or is it really a fake? I might note that the measurements for this buckle measure considerably larger than those stated on civilwarfakes.com, and is larger than the example below. As a follow up, I am told by the collector who sold this to me (and who has bought the piece back) that this piece has now been traced back to the originator, who resides in the Richmond area and is well known to be active in the fakes business. This case is being pursued, more details will be made public eventually, I hope but the investigation of this fake is being pursued by others at this point.  Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-015-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P0968 FP0968 Markert Wallace

P2197 ### P2197 ### P2197.CS two-part Haiman Biles Periut P2197 ### P2197.CS two-part Haiman Biles Periut Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-015-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Biles and Periut

P2657 ### Hanover Brass repro: CS two part, Haiman. This is an example of Hanover Brass commercial grade reproduction, the plate has been produced in quantity, sold to the living history market, and is generally readily available. The product has also been used as feedstock for fakes, with chemical aging and other alterations. Gary Williams has provided the following pictures and explanation: Photo # CS2P21 Plate 016 (Haiman Style) CS Two Piece. 49 x 77/wreath ht.48mm. GW stamped in back of tongue. From the Virginia Historical Society collection. This is one buckle that should not be faked. It is in the museum and all that I cast have the same look. STUDY. Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-015-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Photo # CS2P21 civilwarfakes com

P3252 ### F1252  CS two piece buckle, Haiman style Hammonds siteSource: from a webpage:  CS Two-Piece Haiman Style Waist Belt Plate - Excellent example of a dug CS Haiman 2 piece buckle. One of the finest dug examples available. Measures 78 mm overall length x 48 height (49.5 mm wreath). Similar to Mullinax illustration 018, pp18 (Expanded Edition). Editor note: This came from a respected webpage. Obviously there is disagreement about this plate. The details of the plate are too close to the details on a Hanover Brass example below for my comfort. You be the judge, I report the facts.Hammonds says this came from somebody who bought from me, Is this P0968?Additional photos and text posted on civilwarfakes.com, (Gary Williams webpage):  Photo # CS2P21 Plate 016 (Haiman Style) CS Two Piece. 49 x 77/wreath ht.48mm. GW stamped in back of tongue. From the Virginia Historical Society collection. This is one buckle that should not be faked. It is in the museum and all that I cast have the same look. STUDY. Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-015-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P3252 F1252 Picture only submitted.

P3256 ### CS two-part Haiman P3256 ### (F1256) ### CS two-part Haiman Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-015-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P3256 F1256 Picture only submitted.

P3312 ### Haiman CS produced by Hanover Brass P3312 ### (F1312) ### Haiman CS produced by Hanover Brass Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-015-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P3312 F1312 Picture only submitted.

P3315 ### F1315 CS Haiman offered (then withdrawn) by another dealerEditor note: I did have occasion to examine and measure this buckle with the following results:Tongue keeper 47.0mmWreath keeper 48.4mmWreath 49.0mmThis dealer, who is reputable clearly believed it to be authentic at the time. I tipped him and he withdrew the buckle and returned it to its source.Meanwhile Gary Williams posted the following on one of the forums: Re: Thoughts on this one? Posted By: Gary Williams Date: Thursday, 26 April 2007, at 2:18 p.m. In Response To: Thoughts on this one? (Ed) Look at the marks on the one I have pictured . The back of the wreath is the answer. Also the same sand marks on both the tongue and wreath. The one for sale has the body curve taken out by making it a little flat and not curved as much. This also seems to add to size. I copied my pattern from the belt plate in the Virginia Historical Society. Lets just say I would not buy it. If I call it a fake then that is another story. I am sure it has been given the blue ribbon award and that is all it needs. Editor note: So I guess this is an admission that he made these plates. This latter plate clearly measures larger than his admitted to measurements for his fakes. And I might add that there are no Hanover Brass or GW mark to be found on any of these buckles. So was this plate intended to be a repro or was it made to be placed into the fakes market from the beginning?  Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-015-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P3315 F1315 Picture only submitted.

P3319 ### CS two-part Haiman Hanover Brass P3319 ### (F1319) ### CS two-part Haiman Hanover Brass Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-015-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P3319 F1319 Picture only submitted.

P3340 ### F1340 HaimanTongue keeper 47.1mmWreath keeper 48.4mmWreath height 49.1mmThe owner of this buckle died, the estate executor submitted this for evaluation. It was a small collection, most of the expensive buckles were fakes, most of the cheap ones (US buckles and breast plates) were real. I am certain this collector thought they were all real. Unfortunately he has taken information as to the sourcing to his grave. The back of this buckle has been scruffed up, apparently to disguise the flaws. However it is doubtful this plate was marked in any kind of meaningful way to start with. Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-015-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P3340 F1340 Picture only submitted.

P3448 ### F1448 CS two part buckle, Haiman style, manufactured by Hanover Brass Tongue keeper: 46.8mmWreath keeper: 48.5mm Wreath height: 49.3mm Editor note: Plate was obtained directly from Hanover Brass as a sample of his production to be used in this presentation. vF1312 Haiman CS produced by Hanover Brass Reproduction Haiman CS Two Piece. Marked as a reproduction. variant. Source: ebay auction by jaglady00 Haiman CS 2 piece Belt Buckle Plate Original in the Virginia Historical Society collection Item number: 120102438562Editor note: jaglady00 is Hanover Brass, items sold as reproductions. Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-015-v1-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P3448 F1448 Picture only submitted.

This is the "Ridgeway Civil War Research Center", a research tool for educational purposes only, and is provided at no cost to the reader. Some of the relics listed are retained in the author's collection, most reside in other collections and are not owned by the author. None of the items listed in this section are for sale, please refer to relicman.com sales listings for items offered for sale. This is a work in progress, I list items as I get to them, there are many patterns that are not listed yet, this list will be regularly updated as I get pictures and descriptions for more items. I will also correct mistakes, so if you see any please tell me. All items listed are believed to be authentic to the Civil War or as otherwise described. Any excavated relics have been recovered from private property with owners permission.This information is available for research purposes, pictures may be used by permission only.

Most information on this page is from:
Plates and Buckles of the American Military 1795 - 1874, by Sydney C. Kerksis.
Confederate Belt Buckles & Plates, by Steve E Mullinax.
American Military Belt Plates, by Michael J. O'Donnell & J.Duncan Campbell.

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