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Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-066-v3-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION Confederate, two part plate, FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION Confederate two part plate, CS, Mullinax illustrations 066 and 067, artillery style This is the pattern made by Gary Williams, with ring around the letters, Original plate, item P0897 is photographed. The original plate was tongue only, at the time the tongue was copied, Hanover Brass used a wreath from another pattern. A wreath was eventually married to this buckle, this was done after the piece was photographed. So only the tongue will match, the wreath used by Hanover Brass came from a different buckle. Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-066-v3-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Details click: http://relicman.com/plates/Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-066-v3-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION.html |
P3347 ### F1347 CS two part artillery style bucklePicture submitted by Wallace MarkertEditor note: My understanding is that the ownership chain of this buckle is:Robert SandridgeDennis CoxTerry HammondsWallace MarkertDon BilesLarry Hicklen (consignment seller, plate not purchased.This buckle was initially traded at the Richmond show several years ago, Dennis Cox brought it to the show, and at the end of the show, it was owned by Markert and was under negotiation by Biles. Biles then bought it soon after the show. It was extensively analyzed at that time. Several independent opinions were obtained from collectors at the show including, Mike O'Donnell, Steve Mullinax, Larry Hicklen, Lewis Leigh, Harry Ridgeway and others. In addition, Gary Williams was present at the show and he assured several of these collectors that he had not made the buckle and that it was a good piece. Specifically, Steve Mullinax requested that assurance as a condition of his due diligence before he would agree to prepare a letter authenticating the buckle. In 2007 Don Biles consigned it to Larry Hicklen, Hicklen then photographed the Mullinax letter and endorsed it. The picture of the letter was taken from Mid Tennessee webpage and is submitted by Wallace Markert.Don Biles is now claiming that he has information that the plate is bad, here is his assertion: I have spoken with Gary Williams and he has confirmed making it. Prior to and Since speaking with him, I have also received pictures, letters, documentation about this plate, the history of it, where it went after Gary's manufacture, additional contact info on ownership, etc. I have spent a lot of time researching the facts on this bogus plate.11) Here are the facts: a) It was made by Gary Williams and I have a letter in writing stating such. b) The plate was made from a master. The master has the same casting flaws as this fake plate. c) Nature would allow for 2 maybe 3 identical casting flaws, but certainly not over 9 visible in pictures alone. Gary Williams has posted the following posts on his civilwarfakes.com forum: Artillery CS 2-piecePosted By: Gary Williams Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-066-v3-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P3347 F1347 Picture only submitted. |
P2691 ### Hanover Brass repro: CS two part, Fantasy, Artillery Style. This is an example of Hanover Brass commercial grade reproduction, the plate has been produced in quantity, sold to the living history market, and is generally readily available. The product has also been used as feedstock for fakes, with chemical aging and other alterations. Gary Williams has provided the following pictures and explanation: Photo # CS2P55 Plate 066/068 (Fantasy) ( Artillery Style Two Piece belt Plate.) 67 x 76/wreath ht.52mm. My son made this CS Artillery two piece by cutting the CS out of cardboard and gluing it to the plain center. We did this before I copied an original for a master pattern. The flaw is the letter style. Also on the plain wreath, there are vice marks at the bottom of the belt bar. The person filing the original wreath put a little to much strength on the vice and marked the belt bar. Look closely and you will have no problem seeing this. It is also on the Plain Artillery two piece I cast because it is the same belt plate used to make this CS . Very few of this type were cast but I have seen one sell for a lot of money. Never was one like this one. I cast the Artillery CS now from my master made from an original. This buckle has been aged but only for display. The color will come off if handled a lot. It is in the Charles Burnette collection. Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-066-v3-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Photo # CS2P55 civilwarfakes com |
P2691-9 ### This is an example of Hanover Brass commercial grade reproduction, the plate has been produced in quantity, sold to the living history market, and is generally readily available. The product has also been used as feedstock for fakes, with chemical aging and other alterations. Gary Williams has provided the following pictures and explanation: Photo # CS2P55 Plate 066/068 (Fantasy) ( Artillery Style Two Piece belt Plate.) 67 x 76/wreath ht.52mm. My son made this CS Artillery two piece by cutting the CS out of cardboard and gluing it to the plain center. We did this before I copied an original for a master pattern. The flaw is the letter style. Also on the plain wreath, there are vice marks at the bottom of the belt bar. The person filing the original wreath put a little to much strength on the vice and marked the belt bar. Look closely and you will have no problem seeing this. It is also on the Plain Artillery two piece I cast because it is the same belt plate used to make this CS . Very few of this type were cast but I have seen one sell for a lot of money. Never was one like this one. I cast the Artillery CS now from my master made from an original. This buckle has been aged but only for display. The color will come off if handled a lot. It is in the Charles Burnette collection. Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-066-v3-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Photo # CS2P55 civilwarfakes com |
P3303 ### CS artillery two-part P3303 ### (F1303) ### CS artillery two-part Research Center: Plate7199-Confederate-TwoPart-066-v3-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P3303 F1303 Picture only submitted. |
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