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Plate7399-Confederate-Oval-159-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION Confederate oval, FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION Confederate oval, CS oval buckle with eleven stars, Mullinax illustration 159 Research Center: Plate7399-Confederate-Oval-159-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Details click: http://relicman.com/plates/Plate7399-Confederate-Oval-159-v2-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION.html |
P2627 ### Hanover Brass repro: CS with stars, oval belt plate. This is an example of Hanover Brass commercial grade reproduction, the plate has been produced in quantity, sold to the living history market, and is generally readily available. The product has also been used as feedstock for fakes, with chemical aging and other alterations. Gary Williams has provided the following pictures and explanation: Photo # CSGP18 Plate 159 (Variant) (CS With Stars) Belt Plate. 49 x 75mm. Marked GW. This is a sand copy of the original and left just as the original looks. I do not sell as many as the previous CS with stars. This plate is close to the original and if faked this is the one used. Pick out a flaw because there are many to use. Research Center: Plate7399-Confederate-Oval-159-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . Photo # CSGP18 civilwarfakes com |
P3060 ### F1060 CS oval eleven starsDescription on a website: Leech and Rigdon oval belt plate. This fine plate has a slick brown patina, definitely one of the better looking dug examples. These rare plates are only found in the Western theatre. Recovery site unknown. Editor note. Gary Williams stated on one of the blogs that this fake piece was on the website of a Tennessee dealer and that he had made the piece. He noted that his initials HBF (Hanover Brass Foundry) appear in the middle of the back where a major casting flaw is usually found. He wouldn't tell the dealer, nice guy this Gary Williams, but I did contact the dealer. Although it was still on his website, it had been sold, and this dealer being honorable contacted his customer. The new owner brought the plate to a show and showed it to a number of experts to get second opinions. Several of us took it outside to examine under sunlight, and no matter what angle or lighting condition was employed , under the lights inside or outside, none of us could find these initials. It does seem like there could be these initials on the plate in the pictures, but this is weak and simply did not bear out on examination. I conclude that it had to be unusual lighting in the photography to produce this illusion. This plate got examined by several respected authorities at the show, all of whom have reputations for integrity and knowledge. I also would note that the ownership trail for this plate is well documented and that it was previously owned by several well respected collectors. So after all this examination, none of the experts felt that the plate should be condemned and all liked the looks of it.Now supposedly GW is helping the collectors clean up the fakes by disclosing his repros on his fakes blog (civilwarfakes.com). These are CSGP17 and CSGP18. He says that he marks the plates with his name or has cast unique flaws into the plates that will identify them as repros, or the plates were made so incorrectly that collectors should be able to distinguish his repro. Of course seldom are these plates actually marked, and this wonderful information was only recently provided and years after these fakes were placed into the collector community. Now maybe I am missing the point here, but I find no similarity between these two admitted repros and the fake that he wanted to condemn. So what is the truth? Was this a scheme to stick a reputable dealer, and actually potentially several dealers? Mr. Williams has certainly voiced his displeasure of the dealer community, although the honest dealers seem to be more serious targets for him than his distributors who he actually sold repros to. So what is the truth? Research Center: Plate7399-Confederate-Oval-159-FAKE-FANTASY-REPRODUCTION . P3060 F1060 Picture only submitted. |
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